they're getting ready to merge, these two storms, but the nor'easter has formed, but the upper level energy from this other storm will in four to five hours, but we're getting heavy rain as we planned. the new york line has been so difficult to predict because that rain-snow line is right around new york city, so anywhere just to the north is snow and just to the south is rain and right around new york, but what is generally happening, a lot of the slushy ice and sleety stuff an inch or two of that slush and kind of ice on the sidewalks and especially the north end of manhattan and a potential difference here, maybe the boughses like the bronx might see five or six inches more snow than you might see he in lower manhattan. a difference in a small area, but everybody getting something and once it turns into snow which is going to happen around 5 to seven o'clock tonight, the cold air will move in and all snow. everything below it is going to freeze and very big problems on the roadways. and winter storm warnings inland and the blizzard watch, warning i should say is in effect across coastal